20 Questions with Coin Locker Kid

We sat down and had a chat with the soulfully raw Coin Locker Kid (Dev, Kat, & Prinny) of Fayetteville North Carolina. I don't know what's up with our interviews but again, we had a bit of a late start...about 2 hours actually. Although we had some minor complications such as Dev being M.I.A. during the scheduled time and Prinny having to download the newest version of AIM, we had yet another awesome memorable interview.


Saint: To start things off, what's one word each of you can give us that pretty much sums up CLK?
Dev: Raw. Minimal. Soul
Saint: One word Dev
Dev: raw
Saint: Kat? Prinny?
Prinny: can't think of one ironically
Kat same here
Dev: hip-hop, soul
Prinny: oh, I got one-ghostly (not even sure that's a word)
Dev: that's a good one

Saint: Whenever I think of the name CLK, I think Miyavi, because they have that song called Coin Locker Baby. Is your band's name in any way connected to that?
Dev: yes it is. We both based our title off the same book, but we don’t know about the band.
Prinny: No, not to the song but the actual book. I mean I’ve never personally read it, but I got the gist of what it's about- it's about mothers abandoning their children in coin lockers in Japan (I think)
Kat: I started reading it and from what I read, the names fitting for us.
Dev: Yeah, but somehow they survive. And the book chronicles their lives and their chaotic downfalls.

Epic: speaking of fitting, you guys were previously referred to as trip-hop by Jaymie Baxley of SmartNews. When Saint did the podcast she referred to you as "hip-hop". What type of music genre do you personally think your band falls under? If any.
Dev: soul, to meand hip-hop, alternative hip-hop. And not that Flobots and GCH stuff, if it comes to that.
Prinny: well I’d say alternative hip hop really like strictly alternative like not normal


Epic: Who are/have been your major influences?
Dev: Portishead for me
Kat: Portishead
Dev & Prinny: beck
Prinny & Dev (laugh)
Prinny: Prefuse 73
Dev: bjork
Prinny: Madlib
Epic: I love beck and Portishead
Kat: They're the best. Well, Portishead is. I can't say about beck. I'm not that big of a fan.
Prinny: You are cool in my book V
Saint: Prinny directed me to Portishead
Dev: Prinny and I are huge beck fans. If you listen to beck, you'd see a huge influence.
Saint: I've only heard the loser song. (I like it.)
Prinny: See that's what's wrong with the world...not enough beck fans.
Dev: Shut up girl! Loser does NOT define beck. It doesn't even scratch the surface. That's like liking Creep.
Epic: Beck is his own genre.
Prinny: Of course.
Dev: that's what our goal is- to transcend our sound, but not in an arrogant way. That's why I use words like raw, or soul- because those words are big words, not too confining. We don't wanna change the world. We just wanna make real music, you know?


Saint: How does your music making process reflect that?
Kat & Dev (laugh)
Dev: it's senseless
Kat: Dev, explain our music making process
Dev: it's really, really, really raw. We haven't gotten a recorder yet, so Prinny's input has been in networking and helping me work out beats and lyrics.
Prinny: that's how we met you guys
Dev: I’m the root when it comes to beats and lyrics, Prinny hooks us up (he's like the bass/ manager) and Kat brings it all to live with her voice.
Prinny: life
Dev: Yeah, life. Or all alive.


Epic: Dev--Do you consider yourself the perfectionist?
Dev: ask them
Prinny..... Hell the fuck yea
Kat: HELL THE FUCK YES (laughs)
Prinny: (laughs) I mean, it's not a flaw. More of a stunting advantage
Kat: it’s more of a pain in the ass to me. You’re lucky you don’t have to record things 95785484 times but it’s all good
Dev (laughs)
Prinny: well of course, I’m not singing
Epic: but in the end it's all worth it right?
Prinny & Kat: Of course.
Dev: definitely. There's a method to the madness.


Saint: Since you brought up singing, where do you guys get the inspiration for your lyrics?
Kat & Prinny: Dev
Kat: He writes everything.
Saint: Dev?
Dev: Well, I feel a lot of pain a lot. I’m the type of person that just gets really affected by other people and things like apathy and emotion. I internalize a lot.


Epic: Kat, Dev described your role in the band as one the who "brings it all to life/alive". Having this said, do you think people are more attracted to CLK because of your vocal abilities?
Kat: It's weird to think of it like that. I don’t particularly think I’m a good singer. Really, I don’t actually consider myself a singer at all, so I don’t think people just listen to clk because of me. I mean, the beats are pretty hot too.
Dev: Psh
Prinny: I think so. I mean, if it was dev singing, I’m sorry, but I don’t think we'd catch too much attention.
Dev (laughs)
Prinny: I mean, Dev isn't a bad singer, but I feel more emotion coming from a female singer.
Dev: Same here with what nique said.

Saint: Kat, Did you ever aspire to be a singer? Or was it just sort of like "we need a singer...give it a try"?
Kat: did I ever wanna be a signer? No. my moms a singer, so I never wanted to be that. But I love singing for clk-it’s great most of the time. (As long as dev isn’t being anal about everything)
Dev: nowadays, it's great.

Saint: Kat, you're in college like I am. What're you majoring?
Kat: engineering-totally not music-bio-medical engineering.
Dev: she's brilliant, but she's an artist too.It's in her blood.
Kat: (continued) but I have been playing the piano for the past 10 years, so music is very much a part of my life.
Prinny: I had to adapt.
Kat: yeah, it is, but Science is my calling. I love science. And math. It makes the world go round.
Prinny: Unless you believe in God, then science is worthless.
Dev: oh my god. ANYWAY. Kat can talk about science for days. She loves Science. Clk is Kat’s back up plan!
Kat: (to Prinny) Whatever. Evolution totally exists. (to Dev) kind of. I mean school is friggin hard. If we make it big, which I’m sure we will, it looks like that’s what I’m, gonna do.
Dev: clk is kind of like a break for her.
Kat: very much so.

Epic: Since this is also an issue with us, what is the biggest difficulty having Kat in college while Dev & Prinny are both still in high school?

Saint: For us, I have a TON of time while Vanessa has a limited. Is it the same with you guys?
Kat: It’s always like that. I have no time EVER. I have so much work all the time and I hate it. I wanna put the time and effort in that it deserves, but I just don’t have the energy
Dev: the biggest difficulty is between Kat and me, because since I make the beats and nique assists, we can do it by ourselves. We make the beats.
Prinny: in terms of assisting, I criticize and give him thumbs up and crap.
Kat: it’s quite a pain only being able to record on the weekends
Dev: I don't move forward unless Prinny says so. We’re brothers really.
Prinny: I’m like the damn congress.

Epic: Speaking of difficulties, Prinny- what's the biggest difficulty being in a band with two people who are dating?
Dev & Kat: (laugh)
Prinny: (laughs) man don't get me started on that!
Dev: drama drama drama
Prinny: but it's coming along. So no worries.
Dev: so our music comes a little slower and there are no worries because Kat’s a survivor, just like her mother.
Kat: if I don’t fail calc.
Dev: I have the utmost faith in my girl.
Kat: (to Dev) I’d hate to let you down.
Dev: she could never let me down because she’s trying real hard.

Epic: how long have you guys been together? (meaning Dev and Kat).
Dev: 17 months on the thirtieth
Kat: 17 months tomorrow
Dev: (laughs) Prinny and I have been together for years.
Prinny: (laughs)
Dev: since we were little damn asshole babies
Prinny: meaning 5th fucking grade, snobby dickwad children
Dev: I never thought we'd make music together.

Epic: Prinny, Dev keeps referring to you as Nique. What's the story behind the name Prinny?
Dev: (laughs) yeah Prinny, what’s the story?
Prinny: (laughs) Well it's simple- in my spare time I like to play video games and one in particular I’ve come to love is Disgaea. It has creatures called “prinnies”, which are demonic penguins that kill stuff -
Saint: *gasps*
Kat: Wait, I thought a Prinny was a bomb shell or something.
Dev: (laughs)
Prinny: (continued) and explode when thrown and say "Dood" a lot.
Dev: Totally fits the clk mood.
Prinny: Prinny God is the highest tier; well it's a monster class in the game. It’s so hard to manage demonic penguins. That’s it really.

Saint: Since we're on the subject of Prinny, What inspired u to pick up the bass?
Prinny: It was actually by chance really, way back like 2 years ago-
Dev: Tyler Truxell-He’s a kid we know from school.
Prinny: When Dev and I were in another band, they had a bassist named Tyler who was like brilliant at it. So I picked it up and started messing around and he said I was pretty good and should start playing. So I did. I mean he taught me the basics of bass and he probably doesn't know it (cause he's probably playing World of Warcraft).

Saint: If you could play any instrument besides the bass, what would it be?
Dev: cello
Prinny: Well I did play cello at one point, remember? I could probably pick that shit right back up, but besides that, I’d say guitar. Or a damn harmonium.
Dev: (laughs) awesome sauce
Kat: oh my god. You did not just say that…that’s so gay.
Prinny: ......
Kat: I’m sorry he said that.
Dev: Kat I date a white girl.
Kat: and I date a black guy. They don’t say that.
Prinny: and I date a black girl.
Dev: I picked it up from you.
Kat: I never said that. Ever. That’s b.s.
Prinny: ugh. Can we not do this? Awesome sauce is lame though. Just say awesome.
Kat: Yes
Dev: anyway. But the sauce is awesome.
Prinny: next question please
Kat: what sauce? My sauce?
Dev: my sauce.
Prinny: PLEASE

Saint: How would you say clk has developed since you started out?
Dev: drastically. The development has been drastic
Prinny: well, buying stuff.
Dev: well it started with a band named Brainerd which was a bass, a guitar, and a vocalist Then two bassists, a guitar and a vocalist.
Prinny: two basses are never good. I didn't play much
Dev: Anyway, so I got into a big fight with everyone about controlling issues. It was a big fall-out. Then I decided to make my own thing. I made a whole cd using premade samples from session which is like garage band for windows and after I was done with it
I wanted to make something with nothing but strings and piano. Then changed to strings and digital beats, like bjork and I had a friend with a violin
Kat: I remember those days, they were very….interesting.
Dev: Kat was my new girlfriend at the time and I was making SHIT
Kat: It wasn’t that bad. You’re too hard on yourself. I’ve never thought that you made shit. Ever.
Dev: Either way, Kat asked to join because we wanted to be closer
Kat: (laughs)
Dev and at first I was like, what do you wanna do? Play piano? And she said she didn't know.
Kat: I did at first wanna play piano, but that didn’t always work because I’m better at playing Mozart’s shit than making my own.
Dev: oh yeah I remember. But I was like it's hard going from classically trained. So I said, “sing” ‘cause at this point I was bored of my voice.
Kat: that worked a little better. I used to be very shy. VERY. I wouldn’t record if anyone was around
Prinny: me too.
Saint: I’d imagine that the singing gave you confidence.
Kat: Definitely. I’m still a little iffy on things
Dev: Because of the compliments
Kat: and my voice, because my moms a singer. So it’s weird
Dev: I always thought her voice was like an angel and her mom always said it too
Kat: (rolls eyes) it’s not that great, but yeah I’m way more confident than before.
Prinny: it really isn’t.
Kat: I think I’m average at best
Dev: she's feigning modesty
Kat: No. it's true, I'm not a singer. You know that.
Prinny: good thing she's still humble.
Saint: To be honest, I think that's what attracted me to listen to you guys. Vocals, lyrics, overall sound.

Epic: I second that notion. I think it's a beautiful voice.
Kat: well thank you.
Dev: Kat's voice, bottom line, makes what clk is. My vocals are just some rapper coming in and saying shit. Kat brings the soul.
Kat: You bring it too. We’re like Martina and tricky
Prinny: (laughs) Yeh, before they broke up.
Saint: your rapping always gets stuck in my head.
Dev: well that's a real hip-hop thing-the punch-line thing. While Kat’s singing and I’ll say stuff called adlibs or punch lines. I wanted to really fuse the nature of traditional hip-hopisms with the kind of forties/fifties lounge music vocal style mixed with sixties and seventies beats. That’s why the name is CLK
Prinny: samples
Dev: Yeh, samples samples samples.
Kat: and more samples

Saint: I see you guys as the future of hip-hop. What do you see in store for the future of CLK?
Dev: the future. That’s a hard one.
Kat: being rock stars
Prinny: well …
Kat: I don’t know.
Dev: I think we have something special
Kat: this is Devyn's vision. I hate not really being able to answer
Epic: it's alright, because that just means your future is open.
Saint: Nicely put, V.
Prinny: I’m not a rock star. Well what I see, in all honesty, I don’t know. I mean not to sound vain, but some of the stuff we make I don't see how we can't "make it" but it's all about the art form really. It would be badass to be rich
Kat: I know what you mean, but I’d say its all dev, honestly, the credits all his.
Dev: with the help of my comrades of course.
Saint: comrades?

Epic: His amigos. Friend. Makamaka in your case.
Prinny: His niggas
Saint: Dude I know what a comrade is, I just wanted to know if he was using another play on white people terms.
Dev: look, if it was all up to me, I’d have nobody listening. on one side Prinny always, when not making bass lines directs me and points me in the right direction and Katrina adds her soul into the music and enhances what nique and I have made so although it's like my ideas I couldn't do it alone and would never do it alone
Prinny: that's all well and good but the question was about the future. FUTURE of CLK!
Dev: well we gotta finish a cd. I want 10 tracks.
Kat: we’re gonna keep making music as much as we can the first album is gonna be called-
Dev: and when we get ten tracks we'll be ready to-
Kat: ....
Prinny: We'll just ship them
Kat: should I tell them?
Dev: Newport
Kat: yup

Epic: Since we’re on the topic of the future, with the elections coming up, what do you think of our presidential candidates and their VPs? More specifically, what do you guys think of Sarah Palin?
Dev: OBAMA OBAMAOBAMA OBAMA and BIDEN the attack dog
Prinny: I don't care
Kat: Obama, I love Obama (laughs.)I’m voting. They can’t. But I’m voting Obama
Saint: same here. Vanessa can tell u how strong we are on that one.

Epic: Very strong.
Dev: Nique and I are skeptical though
Prinny: Biden for president. Obama is a dead man walking
Saint: Biden?
Kat: what about him?
Dev (laughs) nique and I are black
Saint: Hey...if bush isn't dead I’m sure Obama would be fine.
Dev: either Obama’s gonna get killed
Kat: so am I
Prinny: I don't think Obama will live the whole 4 years. If he does get elected, I fear for his life.
Dev: or McCain is just gonna make it in office and that'll be it
Kat: as for Sarah Palin, I think she’s a joke.
Dev: fuck that fucking dumbass bitch. I’m not a Joe six-pack
Prinny: I hate her. She’s stupid. No experience
Saint: have u guys seen palinforpresident.us yet? Amazing site there.

Epic: No but I will look into it. I honestly don't like her either.
Prinny: I mean, whatever happens, happens.
Dev: she says she doesn't have to answer questions at a debate! And the whole republican campaign is bullshit! Just how many lies can you tell in a string of commercials?
Kat: she can make herself look like a fool. Seriously.
Saint: V, you totally opened a can of worms with that political question.

Epic: she's a bulldog with lipstick that rides a snow mobile.
Dev: or a toboggan. Obama wants to raise taxes.
Kat: Yeah, that’s not happening
Prinny: Actually Dev, if Obama is elected, we might become a socialist nation.
Kat: no WTF?Don’t be retarded.
Epic: not at all
Prinny: spread the damn wealth!
Kat: and Obama is Karl Marx, right?
Dev & Saint: (laugh)
Prinny: YEA
Kat: don’t be stupid. Oh my god. You should spread the wealth but not like that that’s totally different
Epic: didn't you watch the Colbert Report?
Prinny: It is true.
Dev: I’m spreading the wealth every footstep I take
Kat: They’re not the same.Not taxing the poor isn’t the same at spreading the wealth. Spreading the wealth is what comes from that but those two ideas are very different.
Dev: I spread the wealth

Saint: On that note, we’ve run out of questions for you guys. Do you have any end comments to conclude this interview?
Dev: We're very happy with this band. We're all friends and not a lot of "bands" have that. We have what I think is a unique style of making music. Sampling is a lost art. Bass-heavy music is a lost art. Female vocalists outside of R n B is a lost art. We're trying to be relevant and give respect to the past.
Kat: Very much so. We're always looking for new ways to get our sound out.
Prinny: Prinny Dood. Times have changed and so have we.
Dev: We might make it from scratch; we might sample it from some old school obscure soundtrack. I just think we're full of ideas from all three of us. We all take music very seriously. Our goal is to not be heroes, but just to make real music that inspires people and shakes it like a saltshaker.
Kat: like a Polaroid picture
Dev: Make the ladies throw their panties
Saint: (raises eyebrow)
Kat: (rolls eyes) thanks Dev

20 Questions with Just Above Jealous

Luckily, I was able to sit down and have a nice chat with the guys of Just Above Jealous (Sam & Ian) Although the interview started a little later than planned due to some computer issues on their end, the interview will be a memorable one as it is the first of many to come.

So how are you tonight despite the computer trouble?
Umm...I just took a biochem exam and realized that I'll have p-chem at 8am next semester...(laughs) which kinda sucks, but other than that things are going good.

That's great aside from the exam. So Just Above Jealous...where does the name come from?
Well our lead singer and his buddy threw it around for awhile. Then we played a Battle of the Bands around here and needed a name real quick. Zach was like hey we should use "Just Above Jealous". Now we all hate it except Zach haha, but I guess it's stuck...It actually has a meaning though, jazz is the word 'just above jealous' in the dictionary.

Ah, makes sense now seeing that you guys have a sort of jazz/funk sound. You guys recently hit one year as a band and released your debut album Reign or Resign. Did you ever think you guys would make it thus far?
Well not with the lineup we have now. We've had our ups and downs, but I guess ultimately we've done what we wanted to within a year as a band. Now we're just working on promoting, promoting, and more promoting.

How is that going?
Well you tell me.(laughs) No, I think its good since we're on iTunes now and our fanbase is growing. We're selling CD's, nothing extravagant, but we're connecting with people and thats what its all about. Also with shirts, stickers etc. we're just trying to get our name out there.

Looking back, how have things changed since you first started out? (aside from the growing fan base and being on itunes)?
Well we're a lot more cohesive, and as far as songwriting I personally think we've grown a lot. In the beginning, every band is searching for its own 'sound' and I think we're finally fitting into ours. Even from 'Reign or Resign', our sound has changed a little more to include some 'metal' but more melodic metal, and still with the funk undertones. That and we spend more time on each song. It's not just write something and thats it. We're actually tweaking things and changing songs arund a lot now. The process is longer, but the finished product is more satisfying.

Would you say song writing is a group effort or is there one main song writer for the band?
It's mostly a group effort. Ian will come in with a couple of riff ideas and then him and dylan get the notes worked out. Then I kinda put structure to the song (like where transitions are and whats the verse/chorus). Then Zach takes it and writes lyrics. Kind of step by step I guess.

Can you briefly describe JAJ's music making proccess continuing from where you left off (from forming the lyrics)?
Well then we just take all of those ideas and play it over, and over, and over, and over (you get the idea). Lots of times what Ian comes in with doesnt even end up in the song. Then we just tweak things and add in our own little pieces of flair....basically by the time we play it live we're tired of it (laughs) But it keeps things tight, which helps our sound a lot cause with the funk style stuff we do it has to be REALLY tight or it sounds terrible.

Speaking of live, what is your favorite song to play live and why?
Hmm...as far as ones we've recorded definitely No. 9, followed Very closely by Stand Still...Zach's is probably Just Drive cause he gets a chance to show off his blues background. Dylan's is Peanut Butter...and Ian says thats his favorite too. I guess thinking about it thats my third choice as well. We have some new stuff though that will probably take their places (laughs)

Your guys' music is definately full of some creative lyrics, with those creative lyrics come some pretty interesting song titles. What can you tell me about how the song "I like my peanut butter sandwich....." and how it got its name?
(Laughs) well we went into the studio to record it. (Previously we just introduced it without a title.) But the first thing an engineer asks is what's the name of the song. And that's what came out of my mouth...so Zach added the "so i killed her" part because of what the song is actually about. (It's about a girl who kills her parents, and she thinks its a dream. But then she 'wakes up' and figures out she actually did it.) I'm not really sure what Zach's inspiration is for that one so we needed a title to lighten it up a bit.

Speaking of inspiration, your debute album's title "Reign or Resign" is a pretty bold statement. What I've noticed with most bands is a trend of self titling their debut albums their bands' name. Having this said, why did JAJ say no to the self-titling? Is "Reign or Resign" an adopted band motto for the overall direction of your band? Is there a time frame in which you have each agreed to "resign" if you don't "reign" in the music business?
Well there was never really a thought about having a self titled debut. I just dont think any one of us would have went with it because we feel theres no creativity behind. Music is 100% creativity so why not reflect that in the title? The title actually comes from the track on the album, which is about what if God decided that he wanted to just quit one day. I was in the midst of sleeping one night and woke up with that title for the song in my head, we though it made a great title for an album. As far as a time frame, I mean honestly we're all college students, and we're all from different parts of the US. So I mean we cant really tell what the next 2 years will hold. But we always say that if in 2 years we're doing exactly what were doing now and havent made it anywhere then well "resign" I guess and move on to a career (eww).

If JAJ ever does go through a "resignation", do you think you'll ever regret the time put into JAJ that you could've spent pursusing something else?
Not at all! I mean just being able to create something and have people take interest in it is enough for me. I mean even after we may go our separate ways I still wont be able to distance myself from a band of some sort...I mean personally my dad is still in and out of rock bands around Cincinnati, it's just what I was raised to do.

It looks like music is in your blood. When you were young did you have a desire to be a musician on your own or were you inspired by your dad to get into music?
I had desire, but it was probably from my dad. He used to always be playing guitar around me and was always listening to like Soundgarden and ACDC. So I mean growing up around it I guess I was conditioned. But for some reason I decided drums were my thing...

Were you particularly inspired by any famous drummers or would you say drums were your sort of "calling"?
Well I started playin drums for no particular reason I dont think anyway. But when I started it was learning things by like Tre Cool (Green Day) and Travis Barker's easier stuff. Then I moved on to music with a bit more depth like Josh Eppard (Coheed and Cambria) and Dino Campanella (Dredg). Then of course Neil Peart from Rush, the most technically talented drummer ever. But I would say my style is mostly molded by Josh and Dino cause I learned EVERY Coheed and Dredg song thats been put out. I even have a tatto of Dredg's 'symbol'. By far my favorite band (laughs)

What would you say is the best part of being the drummer of JAJ?
Hmm...I mean being in a band in general its what I said before about connecting with people. I think drumming specifically for JAJ is cool because a lot of our songs are laid back and I get to set the groove to them. But when I decide to make it rock or even towards metal like No.9, thats where it goes. I think I'm in control of the 'genre' in a sense. I mean we all click together so they know what I'm going to do and stuff, so it works.

Looking at your music interests from when you were in the learning proccess, you have a variety in taste. What's currently in your "ipod"?
...about 6,000 songs (Laughs) But I guess right now my top ten if you will are:
1)Dredg 2)Muse 3)HENDRIX 4)Jamiroquai 5)Jurassic 5 6)Dead Prez 7)Tool 8)Coheed and Cambria 9)Bright Eyes 10)Damien Rice -Changes day to day but those are the usual suspects I guess.

Those are some pretty influential bands, who im sure have gone through a lot of challenges to get into your ipod. What has been JAJ's biggest challange as a band so far?
Well getting people to listen is (I think) the biggest challenge. We have the confidence in our music and the work ethic, but we just have to get people to pay attention and come out to shows. Theres just not the premium of music and desire to see it played live any more. People just wanna go to a club and listen to a constant bass beat and grind on each other....which is especially evident in a college town like Oxford.

Have you been able to overcome this challenge, if so, how?
Well we havent yet (laughs) But once we do I think you'll hear a lot more about us. But we're trying every way we can. Whether it be play a free acoustic show somewhere, do an interview, or just meeting new people. It's just you have to get them to the show, I mean the people we have gotten to our shows come back. It's just taking their live concert virginity, Which is the hardest part.

You guys have done quite a few frat parties and free shows to get your name out. Do you see this as a sacrifice to make it in the music industry?
For sure...theres no doubt that people want things as fast as possible, as well done as possible, and as free as possible. So I mean playing free shows is just our hopes of connecting with those 2 or 3 people that have never seen you before and will at least check out your MySpace if not buy a CD or even a shirt. Sometime we've played a shows for free, but ended up making money. For example, we played a huge frat party last year and we agreed to do it for free. Turns out so many people tipped for beer at the door and tipped us while we were playing we made over $300 outright, which was awesome. Then we played a coffee house acoustic show on a whim one night and we sold 4 CD 2 shirts and the place gave us $40 for keeping in the business. so its not all bad because it has its perks.

What can we expect from JAJ in the near future?
Definately some new tunes when we get them perfected and the money to record them. Possibly a new EP by Feb, maybe. That's really tentative. Other than that we're working with a company in LA called AR Select. They do a lot of publicity stuff and we're submitting to radio stations and stuff. Once we get our next EP or full length depending on what we end up doing, that one will be going to record companies. Any ideas? We're always trying to get new clever ideas.

I think i've got one: staying friends with PGR for as long as possible. :)
We'll stay with you if you stay friends with us.

Well, guys I'm afraid that's all I've got for you. Is there anything you'd like to say to conclude this interview?
Umm..."We hate Fall Out Boy and Emo...but we love Katy Perry cause she kisses girls and thats awesome."

(Laughs) well I can second that Katy Perry statement and as far as emo goes...yep i agree with that one too. Fall out boy..I must say...is losing their touch as they ruined a michael jackson classic...

Yea...theyre good at wirting catchy hooks. thats about it but they are losing thier touch. but they're making money so they did something right (laughs).

They also have a similar knack for naming songs ridiculously long sentences like JAJ though, which is kind of cool :P

Our new ones arent getting any better either haha

Perhaps if you guys "go canadian" and sing songs with tons of misheard words you'll catch onto that fame train with your long song titles.

That's true...I'll pass the word to Zach, or just put in some background stuff that doesn't make sense.

Sounds good to me! Well, I'd like to thank you guy(s) (Where ian is/and if he contributed to this interview is a mystery to me) for allowing me the time to interview you.

(Laughs) Sometimes where Ian is is a mystery to me and he's right in front of me.